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1. The snowball Trinity versus the Father Almighty

The snowball Trinity versus the Father Almighty Who is the real God? A tri nity of persons (The Trinity) or just one person, the F at h...

Wednesday, 9 January 2013

65. The trinitarian dogma and the marcionist movement

The trinitarian dogma and the marcionist movement 

"If he adapted the trinitarian conception -- Father-Son and Pneuma-Spirit (Spirit), which would triumph at Nicaea -- from the Valentinian Theodotus, Bardesane was opposed to Marcion and he rejected the Demiurgical creation. According to Bardesane, the world was the work of a Good God, because, despite its imperfections, salvation enters into mankind's possibilities. Thus it was incorrectly that Ephrem the Syrian denounced the influence of Bardesane on Mani, the founder of the Manichean religion. If the Bardesanites excluded from their canon the two epistles of Paul to the Corinthians, no doubt it was due to Marcionism, which presented versions anterior to the Catholic corrections."

Opinion rejected in 268 at the Council of Antioch, but later accepted at the Council of Nicaea.

"Ironically, the synod that deposed Paul of Samosate would reject the term homoousios (consubstantial) by which he designated the identity of God and the Christ; this was the same quality that the Church would impose in the Fourth Century as the only trinitary truth."
http://www.notbored.org/resistance-17.html

Chapter 11: Marcion and the Hellenization of Christianity

"Despite two centuries and an accusation of heresy that separated him from the State religion, Marcion might well pass for the true father of the Catholic Church, a father maladroitly abandoned to the world, a runt that only his enemies brought to maturity.
Missionary zeal; the eagerness to found communities; the hope for divine authority, the investment of which he would receive in Rome; the monarchal organization of the ekklesiai; virulent anti-Semitism; the conception of a Christianity purified of its Judaism; a theology inspired by Greek thought: these compose a great many of the fundamental traits of the future Catholic Church."
http://www.notbored.org/resistance-11.html

"Other texts by Paul were written: the so-called "pastorals." Joseph Turmel has established that the letters of Ignacius of Antioch -- the same ones that the tradition cite as the [first] appearance of the word "catholic" -- reveal the existence of a Marcionite version (135, at the earliest); before being revised, around 190-210, by another bishop of Antioch, Theophile, who, despite his hostility to Marcion, complacently based himself upon the inspiration of the Novum Testamentum.[8] This Theophile did not hesitate to speak of the letters of Paul as the "holy and divine Word [Verbe]," not without ridding them of the Marconite word [parole]. He also borrowed from Theodotus the notion of the trinity and he would undertake the "harmonization of the Gospels, which thus appeared to him nearly deprived of harmony," Deschner remarks.[9]
So as to demolish Marcion, Theophile was joined by Denyse of Corinth, Philippe of Gortyne, Hippolyte of Rome, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus of Lyon, Justin the Apologist, Bardensane of Edessa, Tertullien, Rhodon and Modestus; these were mostly men who enjoyed a certain power as leaders of Christian communities."
http://www.notbored.org/resistance-11.html

See also:

61. Hegesippus, about the early sects
http://waitingforthefinaltest.blogspot.ro/2013/01/hegesippus-about-early-sects.html
62. Who invented this hell?
http://waitingforthefinaltest.blogspot.ro/2013/01/who-invented-this-hell.html
63. The pagan Pythagoreans and their bad influence
http://waitingforthefinaltest.blogspot.ro/2013/01/the-pagan-pythagoreans-and-their-bad.html

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