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64. The real origin of the trinitarian dogma (three persons in one God)

The real origin of the trinitarian dogma (three persons in one God) 

The origin of trinitarian dogma is in the gnostic-marcionist movement:
"If he adapted the trinitarian conception -- Father-Son and Pneuma-Spirit (Spirit), which would triumph at Nicaea -- from the Valentinian Theodotus, Bardesane was opposed to Marcion and he rejected the Demiurgical creation. According to Bardesane, the world was the work of a Good God, because, despite its imperfections, salvation enters into mankind's possibilities. Thus it was incorrectly that Ephrem the Syrian denounced the influence of Bardesane on Mani, the founder of the Manichean religion. If the Bardesanites excluded from their canon the two epistles of Paul to the Corinthians, no doubt it was due to Marcionism, which presented versions anterior to the Catholic corrections."

Opinion rejected in 268 at the Council of Antioch, but later accepted at the Council of Nicaea.

"Ironically, the synod that deposed Paul of Samosate would reject the term homoousios (consubstantial) by which he designated the identity of God and the Christ; this was the same quality that the Church would impose in the Fourth Century as the only trinitary truth."
http://www.notbored.org/resistance-17.html


"Other texts by Paul were written: the so-called "pastorals." Joseph Turmel has established that the letters of Ignacius of Antioch -- the same ones that the tradition cite as the [first] appearance of the word "catholic" -- reveal the existence of a Marcionite version (135, at the earliest); before being revised, around 190-210, by another bishop of Antioch, Theophile, who, despite his hostility to Marcion, complacently based himself upon the inspiration of the Novum Testamentum.[8] This Theophile did not hesitate to speak of the letters of Paul as the "holy and divine Word [Verbe]," not without ridding them of the Marconite word [parole]. He also borrowed from Theodotus the notion of the trinity and he would undertake the "harmonization of the Gospels, which thus appeared to him nearly deprived of harmony," Deschner remarks.[9]
So as to demolish Marcion, Theophile was joined by Denyse of Corinth, Philippe of Gortyne, Hippolyte of Rome, Clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus of Lyon, Justin the Apologist, Bardensane of Edessa, Tertullien, Rhodon and Modestus; these were mostly men who enjoyed a certain power as leaders of Christian communities."
http://www.notbored.org/resistance-11.html

"The Arab historian Shahrastani (Eleventh Century) affirms that, in the Fourth Century, Arius borrowed his doctrine, according to which the Messiah is the first angel of God for the Magharians, "who lived four hundred years before Arius and were known by the simplicity of their way of life and their serene abstinence."

"Who were these Magharians, whose existence dates back to the First Century before the Christian era? Their Arab name leaves little doubt; it means "people of the cavern or the cave," because -- Shahrastani makes clear -- they hid their sacred texts in caverns."

"There is nothing surprising in the fact that the doctrine of the Angel-Messiah (the angelos-christos) was originally Essene, since it was shared by the [various] Christianities and predominated up to the historization of Jesus, undertaken in the second half of the Second Century."
http://www.notbored.org/resistance-4.html

The so called "arianism" is certainly not invented by Arius nor by his teacher Lucian, but is certain an old jewish christology. The true christology.

Strong conclusion

The so called "Arianism" in fact is pre-christian biblical Jewish christology (messiahism). Was not invented by Arius.

There is, also, two echoes in the apostle Paul teaching:

"(...) but as angel of God you received me as Christ Jesus." Galatians 4:14 Biblos Interlinear Bible

"For himself Lord with shout with voice of arch-agent and with trumpet of God will descend from heaven (...)." 1Thessalonians 4:16 Biblos Interlinear Bible

And in Revelation 19:14 ASV "And the armies which are in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and pure."

See also:
 
1. The snowball Trinity versus the Father Almighty
2. He is "Yehowah": God's holy name

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